This is odd as the description of the difference between the Phoenix and the Dragon states that the Phenix has copp
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            This is odd as the description of the difference between the Phoenix and the Dragon states that the Phenix has copper in it and the Dragon pacifically stated that the Dragon has no copper.  I just purchased a Cerberus  which states " Cerberus belongs to the 2nd generation of Venev dual-sided diamonds that you may know by the Dragon series". I also purchased a Centaur 1x6" stone and both are 400f and 1200f. The Centaur cuts completely different than the Cerberus and he cold colored binder or matrix of the 1200 f  in the Centaur is far slicker and has much less grit feel. Also it has many apx. 203 mm. blackish spots looking almost like a mold color where the Cerberus is a solid yellow-gold color with no dark spots and has a very pronounced, smooth gritty feed back. The binders are not really similar at all.  I wish to purchased more stones, but am leery at the moment. KnifeMaker/Michael Lovett
            
                Question ID: 4041090    Status: 
                Open    May 29, 2022 - 04:57 PM
            
            
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    Jun 23, 2022 - 08:12 AM
    Yellow F1200 utilize the same binder in all series. It should be no difference (by design) in binder and diamond composition for Cerberus and Centaur. Difference in performance may come from 1) surface condition 2) variable factors that make production batches different 3) random things (inconsistency of composite, agglomerates, etc)
Dragon is mentioned in Cerberus description because of metal plate not binder. 
        
    
 
 
                
             
         
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